I put MFT base ISO200 and FF ISO800 side by side and I see that they are comparable. Smooth focus ring. @Hubertus Bigend sounds like you finally looked it up and understand how your claims were wrong. Notably, the C70 uses the RF lens mount, making it the first Cinema EOS model to adopt Canon's newest lens system. More importantly, though, a 200mm entrance pupil would STILL not give f/0.38. And "soft"? I was surprised with the clarity, even at 1.8 aperture. We are not talking about 35mm lenses here. Use focus peaking and not markings for distance (everyone should do this anyway). Even for moving subjects, such as from a balloon, once you have your exposure and focus set, it performs like any other lens. Your question may be answered by sellers, manufacturers, or customers who purchased this item, who are all part of the Amazon community. If you want to be nitpicking, so can I, as you said it would be f/2, not f/1.9. You can link to an article EXPLAINING a hoax and still fall for it. MFT is great for certain applications (e.g. If you want a camera that you can pick up and use without having to page through the manual first, then this guide is for you. But regardless of how you approach it, macro work can be an interesting and inexpensive way to reinvigorate your photography. Of course different size formats have different depth of field but that doesn’t mean one is better than the other.In fact a f.95 lens on a MFT camera would be more usable to focus than a f.95 lens for full frame. Beyond roughly f/1, the two start to diverge (and the whole equivalence thing falls apart too -- a hypothetical f/0.5 MFT would NOT give identical images to an f/1 FF, as one might predict). It's more the price which would get me.... @Alphoid you must have mistaken the cleaning lady for the physics teacher. @Hubertus Bigend. In this buying guide we've rounded-up several great cameras for travel and recommended the best. And I bet quite some specimens of either group will check out the 32 MP APS-C sensor and possibly see that crop can be better, depending on what they do. Incredibly solid build quality. We’ve chosen cameras that can take great photos and make it easy to get great looking video, rather than being the ones you’d choose as a committed videographer. The LAOWA 17mm is equivalent to a … Soft? Objectively, faced with the choice of a bigger sensor or a faster lens, you are peddling uphill trying to achieve 35/2 on MFT... but for MFT with no other option, well, it's either that of accept a slower lens for better image quality at a reasonable price. It's a 17mm f/0.95 lens that you see the centre portion of on the sensor. Once the focus is set, the lens performs well. I’m honestly sorry for having started this pedantry festival. so fitting a faster lens onto any or of these bodies would have resulted in a faster shutter speed. Please try your search again later. The LAOWA 17mm is equivalent to a 34mm angle of view on a full-frame sensor. That's why equivalence maters. "The canon was twice as expensive" - BS! I had many people asking me if I was shooting with a film camera when I had this lens on my Pen F. I seemed to reinforce this feeling when I tried to focus and take a photograph and took forever. And the same tech would make a nice 84.2mp FF chip. Sure RF and Z are pricey, but E mount has a ton of quality third-party glass. They’re widely different. Since you are using an equivalent (shorter) focal length, the image moves correspondingly less on the sensor. The 'Q' stands for 'Quatsch,' which translates to 'nonsense' in German." Even 90D beats the MFT at fine detail in wildlife photography. So you think you're getting a full frame f1.9 depth of field, but soon you realize you have to stop down to f4 loser town. The fact that others think about equivalence is not a rule or even necessary. Since the sensor is smaller, it works out to the same as a 35/1.9 on FF. The tiny USB device plugs directly into your computer and accepts footage up to 4K/30p via HDMI, but downscales that to 1080p at 60fps over USB for either recording or livestreaming. Flange distance may not be accurate, for focusing to infinity on the barrel and then taking a photo doesn't give me infinity... have to focus just 1-2mm below that marker. This method is more reliable than zone focusing IMO. This is a bit of a different lens that requires a slightly different approach to a review. Notice I said F stop and not Aperture. Isn’t that the point of using an equivalent focal length? By standard lens conventions, f-stop is defined in terms of light-gathering ability (so as you open a lens up by a stop, it takes in twice as much light). MFT) more than fifteen years ago, I oppose wrong statements about (M)FT. Just as I do oppose wrong statements about other systems where and when I happen to be confronted by them. Ehh... MFT users don't care about full frame equivalent. For $400? Nikon's new entry-level mirrorless full-framer feels anything but entry-level. Share with us in the comments below. Not F1:8, only F1.8. Even with close-ups, there are little problems resolving the images and little vignetting. Staying at or below 3200 ISO on M43, pics bear out that the noise is more than acceptable for shooting concerts at night and etc. @spider-marioYes. Fujifilm's new 50mm F1.0 lens practically begs to be used for portraits, so we shot lots of them, including many wide open at F1.0. Geez, gimme a break here. I like being able to adapt anything to my camera, and have it take photos (and sometimes interesting-looking photos!). Point two, even if I couldn't, it woudn't prove your general claim, as I just exhaustively explained, which is one of the reasons why it is unnecessary to even just try. Prime members enjoy FREE Delivery and exclusive access to music, movies, TV shows, original audio series, and Kindle books. The Olympus M.Zuiko 17mm F1.2 Pro is the best wide-angle Micro Four Thirds lens ... but this would be well beyond the diffraction limit of MFT sensors). We've just updated our Sony a7C sample gallery with a boatload of new images from the camera and its kit lens, the FE 28-60mm F4-5.6. Why on earth not? Only if you don't care for the actual image, the printed or otherwise displayed result, and use multiple standards for same-sized prints from differently-sized sensors, only then you can fíx a circle of confusion independent of sensor size. @George1958: I strongly suggest what I just suggested here https://www.dpreview.com/news/6759423733/zy-optics-unveils-399-17mm-f0-95-speedmaster-lens-for-mft-cameras?comment=2366777473 and here https://www.dpreview.com/news/6759423733/zy-optics-unveils-399-17mm-f0-95-speedmaster-lens-for-mft-cameras?comment=3621886943 – really, in 2020 now people should really know how lenses and formats work... Fun fact, ISO is the key. It’s still not fast, but it worked fairly well. And, actually, it's not even smaller or cheaper. This lens will not do that quickly, regardless of how good you are. People can say "I don't care", and that's fine with me, but there's a world of difference between choosing to use MFT understanding the merits and demerits of the format, and using it under the delusion that MFT 17/0.95 confers some kind of shooting advantage over FF 35/1.9. I don't do much macro, but they're better for macro too. He’s an accredited professional photographer (PPOC) and has won awards, including one from National Geographic. And it's not as if even mediocre 35mm fast primes are cheap. For the first time since unveiling the technology earlier this year, you can purchase a Profoto speedlight with the company's smartphone-syncing AirX technology. You are making the same mistake most uneducated people do. You need to learn how photography works, before you post. Of course it's the latest brand-new APS-C sensor with the MFT competition being four years behind. Not F0:95, only F0.95. That said I would be happy with F1:8 and less softness wide open. The article you shared says exactly what I said: "It’s what some people call the fastest camera lens ever made. Some don't, but some do (I, for one, happen to belong to those who do). It's small, light, and feels well built. April Fools must be really rough for you... @AlphoidYou are now embarrassing yourself. Back in the old manual focus film camera days, you had split prisms and micro prisms in your viewfinder to help you get your focus right. I have other similar prime lenses, but all are equipped with autofocus and electronic apertures. That said, I shoot both MFT and FF, and when I choose a lens for one I often wonder which lens would I use on the other system, and then I think in those other system's "terms". But is it kind of a unnecessarily big lens for m43 (lens designed for APSC so it is unnecessarily big for m43? Slow means you can’t shoot fast. This is my favorite focal length (~35mm full frame equivalent) and if you want this focal length in a manual metal lens, this is the best option. The Laowa 17mm f1.8 is a small and compact lens. Those depth of field marks on the lens are mostly for decoration only. @Mr Bolton, ask yourself: why would you force yourself to use the same ISO? "f.95 lens on a MFT camera would be more usable to focus than a f.95 lens for full frame"- FF doesn't require f.95 to reproduce MFT f.95 images. Also, nobody uses the *same exact* lens on two different cameras with two different sensor sizes for the same purpose or to shoot the same image – because it cannot. This lens feels like something from the best film era vintage lenses and is well-sized to match the size of smaller MFT camera bodies. In order to navigate out of this carousel please use your heading shortcut key to navigate to the next or previous heading. "More or less effort", that part was exclusively about the constructive effort to make a lens, not about the results. Different formats apply different circles of confusion, which results in different depths of field for identical lenses on different formats. High quality metal construction, smooth focus, just the right clicks for aperture adjustment. It is the 4th wide angle lens that LAOWA has designed for MFT mirrorless cameras, following the success of their ultra-wide 7.5mm f/2, 9mm f/2.8 and 4mm f/2.8 fisheye lenses. I really enjoyed the Laowa 17mm f1.8 prime lens. Searched on eBay lately? That's not the case for equivalent focal lengths (e.g. Guess why? Problem with MItakon is they are usually soft wide open. With Newspaper Navigator, users can quickly search through more than a million images extracted from digitized historic American newspapers. It's not f1:2, it's F1.2. Details that describe the intangibles about the lens. Weighted 6oz (172g) only, this remarkably light, compact and agile lens serves as an exceptional complement to MFT cameras. Does it live up to the hype? False claims like that will always become critcised by someone, and it is completely irrelevant whether the critic uses (M)FT themselves (like me, almost exclusively for the last fifteen years, whether you believe it or not) or doesn't. Distant markings work best with film. Dpreview does make their fair share of mistakes, too. Kapish? Lenses are available by searching B&H for e mount FF at 30/35mm/40mm and aperture < 2. Nothing else really matters, but if you want to know, it's of course that you *can* use equivalent ISO on FF without getting into a disadvantage. Shutter speed will be faster on the m4/3 for the same rated Iso "setting" and f0.95, as opposed to f1.8 on a FF to get the same brightness, there is no equivalent shutter speed. Dan Cuny had wanted to travel to Machu Picchu ever since he was ten years old. You barely focus. I did not say there was a advantage in the specific lens simply the ablility to use a faster shutter speed. The SAME! Even better than the Olympus 17mm, the Sigma 16mm 1.4 is always $400. But that's a pretty good achievement considering you didn't have to pay for a FF sensor to get there. The ones on the Oly 17 are useless but at least that lens has fast af. This lens doesn't really seem anything special. 90D really is better. Every time a item for m4/3 i comes out that is advantageous for m4/3 users over other m4/3 items this argument appears comparing to FF Many criticisms come from people claiming to use m4/3 gear but when you look at their profile they do not list equipment. like my Olympus 100-400 w/MC-14 is equiv to 1120mm which is the reach i need. I am old enough to have shot film with manual film cameras. When the chance finally arrived, he opted to bring his Panon 120 camera, to make some special memories. It doesn't work. Try focusing with this lens 3 feet away from the subject. Equivalent lens provides the same amount of light for the smaller sensor. Full frame equivalence is irrelevant to users of M4/3 cameras.Is this lens going to let in more light than my Olympus f/1.8? ". MFT just falls apart at ISO 1600. The Laowa 17mm f/1.8 for Micro Four Thirds (M43) cameras. With the manual focus on this lens, not getting focus perfect can still result in usable images. Things you only realize when you have the lens in your hand or on your camera. "I’m needing 1/50 to avoid shake" - BS! Tamron deems the lens, which is set to go on sale starting October 29, ‘the world’s smallest and lightest telephoto zoom lens for Sony E-mount full-frame mirrorless cameras.’. The point is that you can't show me any good high ISO MFT images. The Canon EOS Rebel T8i (EOS 850D) is well equipped to get an ambitious beginner started in photography – take a look at the kind of images it can produce. 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"the depth-of-field formula that is found in a gazillion of photography textbooks as well as every single online depth-of-field calculator is wrong", Nope. Aside from the mathematics of technical specifications, I think a lens review should provide more practical details. ;-). Before that sensor, a comparison would have looked different. "We don't care" is the ultimate argument, for sure. It is the 4th wide angle lens that LAOWA has designed for MFT mirrorless cameras, following the success of their ultra-wide 7.5mm f/2, 9mm f/2.8 and 4mm f/2.8 fisheye lenses. I like the ergonomics and build quality of Olympus. Sensors are not forgiving. A full frame version would be 6" diameter, 5" long, and weigh 3.8 kilos (7 lbs). Check out our sample gallery to see how it performs. I give up! You need to improve your logic. I never understood 4/3 appeal. Venus Optics Laowa 9mm f/2.8 Zero-D for M43, Laowa 4mm f/2.8 MFT Circular Fisheye Lens, Rokinon RK12M-MFT-SIL 12mm F2.0 Ultra Wide Angle Lens for Olympus/Panasonic Micro 4/3 Cameras. It is an ideal lens for portraits, groups, landscapes, travel and all-purpose imagingThis lens has a 5.9” (15cm) minimum focusing distance that greatly benefits shooting details and smaller subjects. If you’re u sure, just buy it. We've reviewed, scored and now round-up the 41 best lenses for Micro Four Thirds cameras, we think, you can purchase right now. A full frame f/0.95 lens would be just as large and less expensive than an f/0.47 MFT lens which no one will ever try to make. Equivalent is equivalent. It means that you are shooting slower and have to think way more about your images – no run and gun. ... the lens was never functional ... 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But not as better as FF. A near empty park provided the perfect setting. FF costs as much as the crops. I'm not against you in any way, I just do what I've been doing since I became interested in FT (and, later. The new film subscription service aims to expand user's experience of different emulsions and give new and returning photographers a taste of what's available. "Of course, the smaller sensor cameras can't go to lower equivalent ISOs. will the 7.5mm even better?? Ok so using a faster shutter speed is not a advantage in low light, All thing's do not have to be equal you use each system to it's advantages, this is the basic problem with comparing formats they don't have to be equal, this is a m4/3 lens, compare it to a slower m4/3 lens for speed and image quality, someone always has to start with the equivalency debate. Perhaps around $3k. In practice, this is not quite so simple. ACD Systems International has launched ACDSee Photo Studio Ultimate 2021. "different size formats have different depth of field" - Wrong! It is defined for an enlarged, viewed, displayed, printed image. We've selected seven cameras ranging from compacts to full-frame, all of which are easy to operate. I haven't seen enough from this Zhongyi lens to be able to say if its softness wide-open would be detrimental to manual focus. I won't :). The physical properties of the lens do not change. Anyone can check this with any of the numerous depth-of-field calculators out there. F 0:95 is faster than is necessary for the majority of shooting situations. What's the best camera for travel? @Dan_168 As you approach f/0.5, things get unreasonably complex, so an f/0.95 is much harder than f/1.2, which in turn is a good bit harder than f/1.4. The cheapest 35mm F2 on FF E mount is $180, 35mm F1.4 $200, 35mm F1.8 $300. Venus Optics Laowa 25mm f/2.8 2.5-5X Ultra-Macro (Nikon F Mount). It is not the sharpest (even when you nail focus) and it is clear that when fully wide open, the lens is sharper in the center of the image but softer at the edges. @cosmicnode: "Ok so using a faster shutter speed is not a advantage in low light" – of course it is. All your different format images of similar brightness were made of different amounts of light and amplified chip sensitivity gain, while producing more noise. The lens was given the name 'Super-Q-Gigantar.' That would be a 35mm f/0.95 lens with a full frame image circle, NOT a 35mm f/1.8. Reviewed in the United States on April 8, 2020. f-stops are defined to make a logarithmic scale of exposure intensity. @BrentSchumer: "Lenses are available by searching B&H for e mount FF at 30/35mm/40mm and aperture < 2" – thanks for not helping. The GH series is brilliant for video. this is a 35mm f1.3 FF equivalent. The EVF in mirrorless cameras also gives a bright enough view when stopped down, to see the actual DOF. More effort or less effort, the pictures speak for themselves. I mean, you can find dozens of old soft 35 f/1.8 vintage lenses with busy bokeh for less than 400. All your arguments are just BS lies and anti-FF propaganda. Zeiss made it as a joke.
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